SHI COMIC CROSSOVERS

[jamarmiller]

While I am glad to see SHI making the rounds of Crossovers and all I just wish for once we would get  a SHI crossover that wasnt with a superhero. I dont buy a single SHI issue with a mutant dead girl or superhero in them as I HATE superheros mutants and demom/angel stories

What I would give for a SHI comic crossover with TOMB RAIDER by top cow or the New STORM SHADOW series by Larry Hama which is published by DDP coming out in April

I miss realistic SHI

my top two choices are the 2 above. What I want to know is what other crossover comic properties that are in the realm of realism. Meaning NO SUPERHEROS MUTANTS OR ANGEL/ DEMON or even magician crap, that SHI could have crossovers with ?  Please list if you know of any

[boomvavavoom]

vampirella
grifter

 

[jamarmiller]

Guess you missed this part

 


.................. What I want to know is what other crossover comic properties that are in the realm of realism. Meaning NO SUPERHEROS MUTANTS OR ANGEL/ DEMON or even magician crap, that SHI could have crossovers with ?  Please list if you know of any

I dont know enough about grifter other than wasnt he part of the SUPERHERO group WIld cats or something ? dont know if he has any superpowere or not but the Vamp girl would follow the angel/demon/ monster category. so is thier any other REALISTIC. based in reality comic books out there other than the two I listed?

[sllamky01]

What about crossing over with 24  Shi and Jack could kick some ass together.

[jamarmiller]

now thier is one ! and its a IDW title too and Billy has a crossover with IDWs Fallen angel coming out so a working relationship has already been established there

[Delvie]

STILL want a SHI - THE TICK - JOHNNY BRAVO crossover

[toranoshi]

I am still waiting on either a Shi /Batgirl or Shi/ Birds of Prey/Secret Six. Gail Simone has told me that she would love to work with Billy, so this might be a possibility. 

[jamarmiller]

well not a fan of any more comics with superheroes demons or monsters teaming up with SHI as I Dont buy them PERIOD

but here is one crossover I would kill to see that would actually fit in very well with the realistic setting of  SHI

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=107789

Either Billy or larry hama writting a crossover with these two that actually last 4 issues would be a huge boost for both properties I think

[california69gs]

Shi & Tombraider - I could easily see them saving a once lost priceless piece of art from Mafia thugs!



Batman & Shi - Course most of Batman's enimies have mutant powers so that's out.

Batgirl & Shi - nevermind, same problem, that pretty much tosses out all the Batman storylines.

Maybe Electra and Shi - but considering she's come back from the dead so many times it's not funny AND she fight's mystical crap enimies that won't work either.

 
Does Marvel even have a comic without powers of somesort?  Or DC and Image for that matter?

Wow, kind of hard?  Not a lot of big name, money making comicbook characters or storylines without superpowers, mutants, angel/demon, or mystical crap, at least that I read and spend money collecting?

Shi and any GI Joe character I guess? However, I consider their unique ability to never get shot or shot anyone else after decades of battle "Mystical".

How about "ET" or "Outerspace" stories, you left that out of the list.  Shi could join up with GI Joe and the Transformers!

 

[jamarmiller]

actually there has been many many many deaths in the Joe books hell they killed Lady jaye last year. along with several other joes. I think they have killed off about 30 some joes now. Maybe you should check out the book and see what is going on

and for injuries. there is major injuries all the time so I am not for sure what you are talking about no one getting shot or no deaths in 20 years.

infact they just killed another guy in the latest issue Baronee shot him point blank range

[california69gs]

Yeah I haven't read a GI Joe comic since the 80's so I'm sure I've missed plenty.  My 7 year old Son is big into GI Joe's Sigma 6 and in attempts to get him to read we've bought a handfull and it looks pretty much like the same stories as back then with some fresh artwork. There weren't any deaths back then and none in any of his books that I'd read with him so I just lumped it into the same catagory. 

Plots I'm sure have "evolved" in order to keep readers buying after 20 years, but you can't tell me that GI Joe hasn't had altered DNA mosters/supersoldiers and the like in their books, or other way off unrealistic/supernatural plot lines.  WAY back in the day they were doing that with  "serpintor" or whatever his name was that took control of the Cobra organization.  Another recent movie came out that my son watched over and over where they were turning ordinary people into animal soldiers to control. (I have no idea if that came from a comic or was just released as a movie)

At any rate Tomb Raider is the only one I can see as being realistic - with no extra's

I can't remember, has Shi done a cross-over with the Punisher? I love Garth Ennis's work.

You could use GI Joe, it's set in a present time and could use realistic situations.  I just wanted to stress that GI Joe does the same monster/supersoldier unrealistic plot lines that other comics use from time to time, more or less to harrass you because of your obvious love for GI Joe despite this.

[sllamky01]

I understand that some stories are somewhat realistic but keep one fact in mind.

THESE ARE COMIC BOOKS

Comic books are not real they are fantasy
and fantasy includes it all.
I understand likeing one type of fantasy over another.
So let's not cut someone down for there likes or dislikes.

[dawnsawaking]

I understand that some stories are somewhat realistic but keep one fact in mind.

THESE ARE COMIC BOOKS

Comic books are not real they are fantasy
and fantasy includes it all.
I understand likeing one type of fantasy over another.
So let's not cut someone down for there likes or dislikes.

I agree Scott!! 

[Delvie]

THESE ARE COMIC BOOKS

I'm not knocking anybody's favorites. However, if Shi WOTW had had Vampires or Monsters in it, I wouldn't have even finished reading the series, let alone spends the $1000s on Shi. On the other hand, you guys wouldn't have to put up w/ me.   

I loved the concept & art in The Path, until they started dealing w/ tattoos that glowed & artifacts w/ power of the gods. That's when I sent the entire series collection to Billy. I figured he'd get more inspiration from the art than I would appreciation of the series.

[jamarmiller]

Yeah I haven't read a GI Joe comic since the 80's so I'm sure I've missed plenty.  My 7 year old Son is big into GI Joe's Sigma 6 and in attempts to get him to read we've bought a handfull and it looks pretty much like the same stories as back then with some fresh artwork.

oh okay I see, But sigma 6 is completely different continuity it has nothing to do with the main GI JOE comic, its an alternate reality and I would want to see Shi in the main reality

Plots I'm sure have "evolved" in order to keep readers buying after 20 years, but you can't tell me that GI Joe hasn't had altered DNA mosters/supersoldiers and the like in their books, or other way off unrealistic/supernatural plot lines.  WAY back in the day they were doing that with  "serpintor" or whatever his name was that took control of the Cobra organization.  Another recent movie came out that my son watched over and over where they were turning ordinary people into animal soldiers to control. (I have no idea if that came from a comic or was just released as a movie)

ummmm ya I can again the only thing that has even come close to what you are saying in the Main GI JOE comic is the clone serpentor thing and that is all based on something that is quite possible. Something that could be done today if cloning humans was allowed

again  No DNA Monsters. And the Movie LOL  , completely different realities that have nothing to do with one another. The Comic is completely different so you cant compare the movie or cartoons or the new sigma six stuff to the main continuity GI JOE COMIC.


I challenge anyone on this board to read two Trade Paper Backs

first Snake eyes Declassified
then read Master and Apprentice

after you read those two TPB come back and tell me that it wouldnt work or wouldnt fit in with the Main Shi stories.

Its painfully obvious you should because I think if you did.......... No wait.. I know if you did read those two TPB you wouldnt be thinking like you do now about GI JOE. because everything you think now about GI JOE from your post is completely wrong.

If Shi is the best comic book read you have ever had then Check those two TPBs out. It will be the next best read you have ever read, right  after SHI way of the warrior.

and if I wasnt in Japan I would actually buy you those two and send them to you as a challenge.

[jamarmiller]

THESE ARE COMIC BOOKS

I'm not knocking anybody's favorites. However, if Shi WOTW had had Vampires or Monsters in it, I wouldn't have even finished reading the series, let alone spends the $1000s on Shi. On the other hand, you guys wouldn't have to put up w/ me.   

I loved the concept & art in The Path, until they started dealing w/ tattoos that glowed & artifacts w/ power of the gods. That's when I sent the entire series collection to Billy. I figured he'd get more inspiration from the art than I would appreciation of the series.

Got to agree with you on both of those things you said. I would have dropped WOTW too and never read another comic SHi comic if it had Monster/vampires/mutants or superheros in it.

and I too collected the path until those things happened and then I dropped it. Too bad as it was going good and then went all nuts and wierd. and so I dropped it.

Just like I have never bought a  single crossover of SHI with someone else. No shi and wolverine because as much as I like the movies I hate that in my SHI comic.

The thing that attracted me to Shi was its sense of Realism/plausible ( same thing to me guys if were talking about comic books so I am not going to debate the difference ) it was a smart written book that was based in a REALISTIC reality. it had no monsters in it and that is what I liked about it.

that is why SHI and the new larry Hama book STORM SHADOW would be a perfect fit.

again read those 2 TPBs and come back and tell me then

[jamarmiller]

You could use GI Joe, it's set in a present time and could use realistic situations.  I just wanted to stress that GI Joe does the same monster/supersoldier unrealistic plot lines that other comics use from time to time, more or less to harrass you because of your obvious love for GI Joe despite this.

like I said in my post above your really misinformed of the main comic continuity your really mixed up on what is what. none of your points that you are stressing are any where near the truth. The main line the main continuity that has been going for 20 some years now has nothing like you think it has. I suggest before you try to talk about something you actually read it .

I know this probally sounds like were fighting but on this end I can tell you I am not angry so I hope you dont take these responses the wrong way . Its not mean to be like that at all. 

Im cool with everyone on this board !

[california69gs]

I know this probally sounds like were fighting but on this end I can tell you I am not angry so I hope you dont take these responses the wrong way . Its not mean to be like that at all.

Im cool with everyone on this board !

Agreed, not fighting.  Just debating points, and I'm obviously at a dissadvantage since I'm argusing on a point based on an opinion from 20 years ago. LOL

clone serpentor

Yeah I think that's it?  The one that they made by taking DNA samples from long dead leaders and warlords? 

Now as a Nurse, I'd have to say no.  They are much closer, but not able to make viable clones.  Sure they've done animals, but none have lived for more then a year, and that is the longest living one as of yet.  Not to say in some deep down lab where research isn't slowed down by red tape, it couldn't be done with better success. 

Again that was the only case I can plead since I haven't read Joe in 2 decades.  (man it hurts to type that)

I will have to pick up the two reads you suggested however since you so highly recommend them.  Maybe it will spur me to write another story.  I've got all kinds of stories floating around the house and in my head. 

[dawnsawaking]

Now as a Nurse, I'd have to say no.  They are much closer, but not able to make viable clones.  Sure they've done animals, but none have lived for more then a year, and that is the longest living one as of yet.  Not to say in some deep down lab where research isn't slowed down by red tape, it couldn't be done with better success. 

Ok, since this is my current topic in my class, they have cloned "Dolly" the lamb which didn't live a full term life due to complications that are still unknown.  They have also cloned another animal, a rare and on the verge of extinction and it was a type of cow or ax, they cloned it, invetroed the clone in a cow, delivered it and then it died 3 days later due to a bacterial infection (this info is from the National Geographic show called Clone)  Now that is the embroyonic cloning and this is against the law in the US to try this for humans.  But as in my class, if it is illeagal here, someone is probably doing it somewhere else and the "word" on the scientific street is that it has been done, now no one has seen evidience of this, so it makes one wonder how close they really are to it.

There is another type of cloning and that is Theraputic cloning and that is cloning organs for transplants and to help with diabetes, alzhimers and so forth.  But I had to throw out that knowledge since I am studying it right now and trying to compose my genetic issues letter to a Senator about stem cell research before the 16th. 

  see cali i am not wasting my time at Alverno

[jamarmiller]

[  But as in my class, if it is illeagal here, someone is probably doing it somewhere else and the "word" on the scientific street is that it has been done, now no one has seen evidience of this, so it makes one wonder how close they really are to it.

True that LOL !

[jamarmiller]

I will have to pick up the two reads you suggested however since you so highly recommend them.  Maybe it will spur me to write another story.  I've got all kinds of stories floating around the house and in my head. 

Do it, you will be pleasantly suprised at both the story and what GI JOE the main comic continuity/line/book really is like.

Anyone on the board who hasnt checked GI JOE out should pick up SNAKE EYES declassfied and Master and the Apprentice TPBs if you like SHI WOTW Heaven and earth Posioned Paradise and Ju-nen then you will most likely like these two TPBs immensly

[jamarmiller]

Here is a good short sweet summary on the latest in the GI JOE Comics take 3 minutes of your life and read it.

http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/news/story.php?a=4736

[jamarmiller]

**Spoilers Ahead***


I love to see GI Joe get the great Review it deserves! (scroll down about half a page to read review)

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=110824

G.I. Joe: America’s Elite #23
Written by Mark Powers
Illustrated by Mike Bear
Published by Devil’s Due
Review by Koben Kelly  ( not jamarmiller LOL )

Okay. I’m going to be honest, here. With the exception of a single issue of Dreadnoks, I haven’t read a Joe comic in at least twenty years. I had absolutely no idea what the current continuity was, no idea what the story would be about, and not a glimmer of any expectation of what I was in store for. In light of the recent tragedy of Virginia Tech, I wasn’t sure how I would feel reading an issue of a military comic featuring idealized versions of American soldiers in combat. I felt that I had had my fill of gunfire and bullets to last me for a long time to come. And, to make a bit of a confession, I have a paralyzing fear of guns. After adding it all up, I wasn’t thinking I would enjoy this book at all… and now I can admit that I was wrong.

When I was a wee kid in middle school, I would rush home every weekday to catch the afternoon’s episode of G.I. Joe. Though I can hardly claim the same now, back in the day I knew every code name of every member of the team by heart, and I loved them all. Hell, I even had a raging crush on Scarlet, but, didn’t we all? Oh, so strong was the spark of my rekindled youth when I laid eyes on the first page displaying the issue’s roll call: Duke, Spirit, Stalker, Hawk, Roadblock, Scarlet, Shipwreck, Snake-Eyes, and even a character based on the original incarnation… G.I. Joe with beard and all.

Another feature that helped me get into the mood was a recap box of sorts explaining the essentials of previous issues. The Baroness had been captured and taken into custody. Pregnant with what we are to assume was Destro’s child, she gave birth while imprisoned by the government. During an attack by C.O.B.R.A., the baby had been kidnapped. Soon after this, the Baroness had escaped her incarceration, and has been taking bloody revenge on anyone affiliated with C.O.B.R.A. who she felt had betrayed her.

Before the true story of the issue begins, we are treated to an intro detailing a scenario form months ago before the Baroness’ escape. She is extremely hostile, and refuses to provide any form of informative answers to her interrogators. When a government representative suggests torturous methods to encourage her assistance, he is shot down by a Joe member. The central idea is that true soldiers of the Joe team are wholly above such barbaric methods of human cruelty. In the immortal words of Keenan Ivory Wayans… “Message!”

Things kick into high gear as the story jumps head-first into a firefight in Saudi Arabia. The known Baroness affiliate, Bludd, had been tracked down, and the team wants him for the information he can provide on her whereabouts.

Meanwhile, Flint is conducting an exercise in surveillance of the leader of a terrorist faction, Red Shadows. By chance, he witnesses the Baroness offer the man a highly dangerous high tech battle suit weapons system in exchange for his assistance. The oddity is that she aims to take down both G.I. Joe and C.O.B.R.A. Sure, she’s a naughty-hot bad girl, but, she doesn’t play favorites, it seems. I loved the idea of a former cut-and-dried black-and-white C.O.B.R.A. agent bending her own set of rules to a twisted sense of karmatic justice. The cartoon this ain’t. *ahem* Flint stows himself away aboard the Baroness’ hijacked plane, and a brawl between the two mid-air ensues. Not only does Flint have his ass handed to him by a hottie in a skin-tight latex suit, but he also gets his mind F-ed with in the process. Love it.

I’m sure many of you are aware of this, but, I had no idea that Destro already had a son. Tucked away in Scotland, Alexander and his girlfriend are the recipients of a Joe attack to gain info on daddy’s whereabouts. Points to the girlfriend, Armada, for not mistaking stupidity for loyalty.

Without spoiling a beauty of a cliffhanger, I was completely surprised by the last page and its implications. After checking out the cover graphic for the next issue, Domestic Abuse might make a fitting title.

This issue’s artwork by Mike Bear is delicious. He has a wonderful sense of storytelling, and a decent sense of minimal line placement. The latter truly conveys the weight of his figures and the emotional impact of every given situation. Have I mentioned that he draws on Hell of a hot Baroness? His action depiction is crystal clear and top-notch.



All in all, I had a fun time reading this book. I’d love to read some more. A wonderful trip back to my innocent (okay, not so innocent) days of youth. I give G.I. Joe: America’s Elite issue number twenty-five seven out of ten Infernos.