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Author Topic: Rags Morales VS Rob Liefield  (Read 1688 times)
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« on: Wed, August 15, 2007, 15:19:51 »

Well if you like creators having a public slapfight this thread is for you. Definitely interesting It really kicks off starting with page 5.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124804&page=5

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« Reply #1 on: Wed, August 15, 2007, 16:39:24 »

That looks like some repressed feelings coming out strongly. 

But just some questions about Liefield having so many projects coming out ...
has he learned to draw?
can he follow through on all of these projects?
will he get bored and have to let someone else finish what he starts?
does he obtained any idea of what human structure and musclature looks like?
will any of these projects see the light of day?
has he spent all of his millions of dollars from the first time he stuck it to the fan?
will he do another Levi's commercial, ever?
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, August 15, 2007, 17:17:44 »

Well if you like creators having a public slapfight this thread is for you. Definitely interesting It really kicks off starting with page 5.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124804&page=5



Whooo! That was fun!
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« Reply #3 on: Wed, August 15, 2007, 17:21:47 »

Wow what blood shed. There needs to be more of those on boards. quite amusing.
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« Reply #4 on: Wed, August 15, 2007, 18:36:28 »

That looks like some repressed feelings coming out strongly. 

But just some questions about Liefield having so many projects coming out ...
has he learned to draw?
can he follow through on all of these projects?
will he get bored and have to let someone else finish what he starts?
does he obtained any idea of what human structure and musclature looks like?
will any of these projects see the light of day?
has he spent all of his millions of dollars from the first time he stuck it to the fan?
will he do another Levi's commercial, ever?

Answering them in order
1. If you mean even remotely anatomically correct then the answer is no. Especially if you are talking about proportion and feet.
2. No. Most will be delayed severely or cancelled.
3. Yes.
4. Only as it relates to Mr. Fantastic. I believe that is his model for all human anatomy.
5. Half will the others will be cancelled like every other project of his.
6. Yes.
7. It will be a You Tube Exclusive
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« Reply #5 on: Wed, August 15, 2007, 22:30:36 »

Drama Llama!

Tough to believe that prominent artists would scrap it out in public in such a manner.  It puts both of them in a negative light.  This kind of thing should never be done in public.
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« Reply #6 on: Thu, August 23, 2007, 22:58:33 »

MAN! That was a long read. For me, as far as Rob goes, I really got into his art early in his career, but just lost interest, as I didn't think he was developing. I did continue to buy books he worked on, but only because he worked on books that I thought were interesting as far as characters and possibilities. Of course at the same Time, Jim Lee was working on X-Men, and there was nothing better. He quickly became one of my favorites artists and continues to this day. Rob's work has become stale, even though he does produce a quality piece every once in a while. I can't look at any of his work nowadays without being influenced by what I have read over the years. Good for him that he has been able to live prosperously because of his artwork. I only can hope I could be so lucky.
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« Reply #7 on: Fri, August 24, 2007, 09:14:42 »

I made it 1/2way through page 9. Gave up after that. I'll wait for the illustrated version. There were some funny potshots in there. I have to say from my own personal experience, I have no problems w/ Liefeld. I got excited when he did a Avengelyne/Shi cover for about a second. He definately doesn't have any fans amongst the comic dealers that I've talked w/.
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« Reply #8 on: Fri, August 24, 2007, 10:49:12 »

I made it 1/2way through page 9. Gave up after that. I'll wait for the illustrated version. There were some funny potshots in there. I have to say from my own personal experience, I have no problems w/ Liefeld. I got excited when he did a Avengelyne/Shi cover for about a second. He definately doesn't have any fans amongst the comic dealers that I've talked w/.

That would probably be because he cancels 90% of his scheduled work and on the other 10% is chronically late. The real shame is that his earlier artwork (Hawk and Dove, New Mutants) is far superior to anything he has put out since. Back then it appeared that he at least had a slight interest in anatomy and all of his faces did not have a Bell's Palsy aspect to them.
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« Reply #9 on: Fri, August 24, 2007, 13:17:32 »

That's pretty much the reasons, but since it was somebody elses opinions, I didn't feel I had the right to say them publicly.
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« Reply #10 on: Wed, August 29, 2007, 20:54:11 »

Ouch!  While this is interesting, in a peanut gallery sort of way, I think that if two people have a problem with each other, they should voice these issues face-to-face (privately) and not behind a keyboard and monitor.
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« Reply #11 on: Thu, August 30, 2007, 11:32:32 »

Well if you like creators having a public slapfight this thread is for you. Definitely interesting It really kicks off starting with page 5.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124804&page=5



No, there is really too much of that in comics these days, isn't there?  I guess some websites will stoop to just about anything for ad dollars. Frankly, I think they're all  crazy Liefeld is Liefeld. If he cancels 90% of his work then it is up to the retailers to send him the message business wise. His fans, if there are any real ones left ... should follow him as closely as they can. But two pros getting into a nipple twist fight is absurd.
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